Martin Armstrong

[Paul]

and which tracking record of Marty are you referring to boefke ?
the one you don't understand ? or the one thousands of people pay "ridicilous" amounts of money for ?

please get in touch with reality.

[Indiana Jones]

and indy. just for thoughts.
if theory is right afterwards, then it was also right upfront,
It would be the forecasters fault not being able to interprete the theory and the variables in the correct way on the correct time.
He'll have to update his computing models ...

Armstrong's model is about the turningpoints. they are the TRUE lines in the sand. direction of movement is something we all account for and is changing all of the time. timing and confidence are crucial. The market is ALWAYS wright ...

You know Jim Sinclair always respected Martin Armstrong and still does .... so do I

What I really don't understand is that Martin is pissing off goldbugs & the price of gold lately, why? and he is suddenly hailing the dollar, why? He is also pissing off politicians and their legal system like never before!, why?

I am reading his work for years now, published on the Sribd website through friends, because he was jailed. He was placing financial history and the ones who were in charge in perfect context with his cycles. He was predicting a cycle based downfall of the American empire and thus the dollar. That's why he simultaniously predicted a cycle based increasing goldprice (dollarhedge). Like many goldbugs (Sinclair included) he foresaw a future cycle based rhino horn in the goldprice, but had no idea how deep gold could fall after the rhino horn was acomplished. Later on he foresaw a downfall of the whole western empire, Europe included and hughe shift to the East.

I agree with the man so far, as does Sinclair.

Since he is released from prison it seems like a lot of frustration is coming out of the man which I can understand. But as you, and in fact we all know, it has never been healthy or profitable to play with emotions in predicting the future of markets.

That's why I disagreed with Armstrong several times lately and that's why Sinclair was surpriced a month ago and was even irritated last week.
Armstrong/s cycles are still correct but his corresponding future market and economy predictions are somehow full of emotions and therefore shifting from A to Z.

grtz. Indy ..

[Paul]

Me thinks you can not draw such conclusions
I for one don't notice such emotional flipflops at all

mr Sinclair was not agreeing, true, but was Armstrong wrong ?
no he wasn't. we didn't continue to rally in february. as he was forecasting.

maybe that's what gets Jim irritated ?

you did not adress the thought:
a theory can NOT only be right in retrospect, then you were just looking at the wrong things ...

[Boefke]

Paul's cycles in a way are similar to Martin Armstrongs' one. When the date is nearing and facts are not stating your prediction, change it.

March----> Germany to leave the Euro (Paul)

Germany never to leave the Euro----> Boefke

You already changed your (ridiculous) prediction, I'm not going to change it as the future will be my best friend

Can I get the next month of the departure from you? As "a little longer" is to much Marty language.....

[Indiana Jones]

why don't we take the best of all these guys ?

.... Armstrong/s cycles; Another/s philosophy; Sinclair/s experience and Field/s numbers ....

Indy

[Boefke]

Eventually we will know indy......

Sit and wait, or work in my case

[Indiana Jones]

Eventually we will know indy......

Sit and wait, or work in my case

You don't have any privilage into your case because most of us actually do work ....

[Paul]

you have nothing of interest to say about cycles boefke
you don't understand them and I for one am not interested in your opinion about them.
there is nothing you will say that will convince me otherwise
so why still bother ?

I will continue to change my predictions. (as Armstrong also does)
it is what cyclic interpretation is all about. things change. that's the whole point.
trackrecords made for BIG business in Armstrongs case. I'll answer that one for you ...

you are only succeeding in making yourself look stupid by trying to look smart
I suggest you stop trying.
but before you feel honoured again. don't do that for me. I couldn't care less about you. I gave up on you long time ago.

[Paul]

Paul's cycles in a way are similar to Martin Armstrongs' one. When the date is nearing and facts are not stating your prediction, change it.

March----> Germany to leave the Euro (Paul)

Germany never to leave the Euro----> Boefke

You already changed your (ridiculous) prediction, I'm not going to change it as the future will be my best friend

Can I get the next month of the departure from you? As "a little longer" is to much Marty language.....

I am guessing you are asking me for an update on predictions. the english language is not one of your strongest assets.
This is not a game of pissing the furthest for me. but I'm not walking away. I don't care about being right now.
It is about being right on the right time. When I make (sometimes ridiculous indeed) predictions I'm just playing the forum game. just as you.
When Marty is making predictions he is talking serious business. there is a subtle difference there.

The way this is looking now, euro will probably survive 2012 and will get into trouble in 2013/2014.
2015.75 would be the big japan turning point. and 2017.75 brings the fall of the dollar and the high in gold.
We should enter a new monetary system by then.

But you don't care. you aren't interested in the cyclic theories and all the implications.
you just want to be right about owning gold.
well so far you are.
For you (as my best friend )I hope you will be able to sell in time. because that will be the hardest part !

just sayin ...

[Rasta]

Paul's cycles in a way are similar to Martin Armstrongs' one. When the date is nearing and facts are not stating your prediction, change it.

March----> Germany to leave the Euro (Paul)

Germany never to leave the Euro----> Boefke

You already changed your (ridiculous) prediction, I'm not going to change it as the future will be my best friend

Can I get the next month of the departure from you? As "a little longer" is to much Marty language.....

I am guessing you are asking me for an update on predictions. the english language is not one of your strongest assets.
This is not a game of pissing the furthest for me. but I'm not walking away. I don't care about being right now.
It is about being right on the right time. When I make (sometimes ridiculous indeed) predictions I'm just playing the forum game. just as you.
When Marty is making predictions he is talking serious business. there is a subtle difference there.

The way this is looking now, euro will probably survive 2012 and will get into trouble in 2013/2014.
2015.75 would be the big japan turning point. and 2017.75 brings the fall of the dollar and the high in gold.
We should enter a new monetary system by then.

But you don't care. you aren't interested in the cyclic theories and all the implications.
you just want to be right about owning gold.
well so far you are.
For you (as my best friend )I hope you will be able to sell in time. because that will be the hardest part !

just sayin ...

Comes to mind, we are talking Disciples, Messiah. Armstrong is very good at looking at cycles and turning points. To actually (correct) extract what that means for outcomes/actual events, is extremely difficult, if not impossible to predict. High level it usually is easier to do, so I go with Martin that in 2015 we are on the bottom, and gold will be all-time-high. And perhaps I should leave out 2015. What is left is not a prediction, but a trend, which is not hard to see anyway.