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Hooimijt september 2013

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zware afklop

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voor begin van de week :-(
-20$ al

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Eindelijk een goede vertaling :

Zhang Jie: Gold Leasing Is A Tool For The Global Credit Game http://koosjansen.blogspot.nl/2013/08/g ... redit.html

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Re: Hooimijt september 2013

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een zeer interessant en gedetailleerd artikel over de goud-dans tussen JPM en een aantal andere banken in de laatste maanden
zelf geloof ik dat hier ergens een antwoord ligt over wat er allemaal achter de schermen aan de hand is
http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/5018 ... old-corner

ik heb zelf nog wat cijfers in vorm gegoten ter vergelijking:

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netto heeft HSBC dus zowat 45% van het JPM goud overgenomen
en de 3 andere banken elk zo'n 15%
en nog eens 10% naar een onbekende (misschien een man met gouden zakken? :roll: )

gevolgd door deel 2 van de stoelendans, HSBC en Scotia lenen goud uit aan JPM die het dan verkoopt:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-2 ... -more-gold

in het eerste artikel is de hypothese dat de banken onderling strijd voeren, maar zelf geloof ik dat ze samenwerken om deze prijsdaling mogelijk te maken
zo heeft JPM de goudprijs gekelderd door haar goud (en dat van haar klanten) massaal op de markt te dumpen, maar heeft ze dat voornamelijk aan andere banken verkocht, die wel heel enthousiast waren om het terug te geven als JPM het nodig had

dus
fase 1) JPM verkocht futures (?) aan andere banken, verzilverde dat met "fysieke" levering en ging ondertussen van net short naar net long op goud (terwijl GS zich amuseert met GLD)
fase 2) de andere banken lenen JPM goud als ze dat nodig heeft om elk tekort aan fysiek te dekken
fase 3) zoals in het artikel wordt vermeld, JPM koopt weer massaal goud (van de banken aan wie ze net verkocht heeft, onder het mom van oorlog en de crisis die plots erger blijkt te zijn dan de media en politiek ons deed geloven :o) wat de prijs doet exploderen, en JPM verdient zwaar aan de long contracten

dan is de enige vraag of we tot december moeten wachten voor we $2000/ounce zien :mrgreen:

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Sanem wrote:een zeer interessant en gedetailleerd artikel over de goud-dans tussen JPM en een aantal andere banken in de laatste maanden
zelf geloof ik dat hier ergens een antwoord ligt over wat er allemaal achter de schermen aan de hand is
Je mist waarschijnlijk wat historie omtrent de LBMA (London Bullion Market Association) vs GOLDCOMEX (Commodity Exchange NY) .... heb ik al eerder gepubliceerd.

Dan had je namelijk kunnen begrijpen dat er al decennia lang een "goldgang" samenwerkt met CB's via de LBMA/COMEX (waarvan overigens JPM, Nova Scotia, HSBC, Deutsche Bank etc. .... maar óók ROTSCHILD deel van uitmaken).

Al hetgeen deze zakelijke goudbanken doen is een carrousel vormen met CB's .... onder het alziend oog van de BIS (Bank of International Settlements Switserland). Deze carroussel draait om onderlinge goudwinstverdeling tussen CB's en grootzakelijke banken ...... waarbij GEEN GRAM GOUD DE CAROUSEL VERLAAT, hooguit soms wat surplussen in het edelmetaal ..... waarschijnlijk al vanaf vóór het moment dat je geboren bent ...... ;)
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Een beetje doom and gloom maar wel een uitstekend artikel voor de rest...

By Paul McGuire
September 2, 2013
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The whole world is reacting to President Obama’s decision for America to attack Syria over an alleged chemical attack because Assad’s forces had been accused of using chemical weapons several times in the last year, including the August 21st attack in the suburbs of Damascus. However, a number of news analysts such as Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul have called this a “False Flag” attack.

The Pentagon is moving a sixth warship armed with cruise missiles to the eastern Mediterranean Sea, giving the U.S. more firepower for a possible attack on Syria in response to alleged use of chemical weapons, a U.S. defense official said. According to reports, the guided-missile destroyer Stout will soon join four other missile-carrying U.S. destroyers within range of Syria. Each destroyer can carry up to 90 cruise missiles which have a range of nearly 1,000 miles. Whether they will acknowledge it in public or not, the international community and the United Nations look to the American Empire to supply its massive military force to solve international conflicts.

What is happening in Syria will not only affect America, Russia, Great Britain, China, Syria, Iran, and Israel. It will affect the entire world because Syria, controlling major oil assets off its coast, occupies a critical position in the global oil economy. It is possible for oil prices to go through the roof, and that would send a tsunami across the global economy. There have been reports put out by big banks like SocGen and Goldman Sachs that oil could soar to $150 a barrel if the Syrian conflict goes hot and draws in Russia and China.

According to an article by Steve Quayle in his, “V - The Guerrilla Economist Updates,” “The trouble for Syria began with two things. First the discovery of natural gas in the Mediterranean right off the coast of Syria, Lebanon and Israel. Read that list again, especially Lebanon and Syria. Is the picture becoming clearer? This discovery took place about a decade ago but the thing is that there already exists in the Middle East a Liquid Natural Gas Producing power house. This is the tiny nation of Qatar.”

Quayle continues, “Now here is where you need to put your thinking caps on. Qatar is floating in LNG (Liquid Natural Gas) it has over 77 Billion Tonnes in Reserve and that is with a moratorium in place. The problem is that Qatar would love to sell its LNG to the EU and the hot Mediterranean markets. The problem for Qatar in achieving this is their regional big brother Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have already said "NO" to an overland pipe cutting across the Land of Saud.” The Qatar / Syria region has vast reserves of natural gas. Russia has a deal with Syria that allows it to sell this Natural Gas and Oil to Europe.”

Russia now controls the oil coming out of Syria and being sold throughout Europe and China. However, there appears to be a battle for the control of that oil.

The Nabucco Agreement was signed by a handful of European nations and Turkey back in 2009. It was an agreement to run a natural gas pipeline across Turkey into Austria, bypassing Russia again with Qatar in the mix as a supplier to a feeder pipeline via the proposed Arab pipeline from Libya to Egypt to Nabucco (is the picture getting clearer?). The problem with all of this is that a Russian backed Syria stands in the way.

Qatar would love to sell its LNG to the EU and the hot Mediterranean markets. The problem for Qatar in achieving this is Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have already said "NO" to an overland pipe cutting across the Land of Saud. The only solution for Qatar if it wants to sell its oil is to cut a deal with the U.S.

Recently Exxon Mobile and Qatar Petroleum International have made a $10 Billion deal that allows Exxon Mobile to sell natural gas through a port in Texas to the UK and Mediterranean markets. Qatar stands to make a lot of money and the only thing standing in the way of their aspirations is Syria.

The US plays into this in that it has vast wells of natural gas, in fact the largest known supply in the world. There is a reason why natural gas prices have been suppressed for so long in the US. This is to set the stage for US involvement in the Natural Gas market in Europe while smashing the monopoly that the Russians have enjoyed for so long. What appears to be a conflict with Syria is really a conflict between the U.S. and Russia!

The main cities of turmoil and conflict in Syria right now are Damascus, Homs, and Aleppo. These are the same cities that the proposed gas pipelines happen to run through. Qatar is the biggest financier of the Syrian uprising, having spent over $3 billion so far on the conflict. The other side of the story is Saudi Arabia, which finances anti-Assad groups in Syria. The Saudis do not want to be marginalized by Qatar; thus they too want to topple Assad and implant their own puppet government, one that would sign off on a pipeline deal and charge Qatar for running their pipes through to Nabucco.

With the strong possibility of the strike from America happening, there is massive fear in the market and oil prices are surging. Now the end game is to cut Russia's lock on natural gas and oil that it supplies to Europe. If this connection is cut in any way, it will bring severe consequences to the Russian economy as well as Russia's natural gas company Gazprom.

There are two opposing factions in Syria. On one side you have the Qatari backed Muslim Brotherhood and its subsidiaries that have very close ties with the Emir of Qatar. On the other side you have the Saudi backed Wahhabi AL-Qaeda and its subsidiaries. These groups commit atrocities, like the cannibalism of the Wahabis and the "Brotherhood" slaughtering Christians.

What the international bankers are not telling the American people is that the U.S. economy is in reality crumbling and being propped up by the Federal Reserve printing money from nothing which they call Quantitive Easing. Using the pretense of spreading love and democracy throughout the Middle East, the U.S. has already seized control of six Arab nations.

For Russia, Syria is more than just the location of a strategic port in the gas rich Middle East; it is an essential strategic area. Russia is now forced to draw a very hard line in the sand lest they lose the entire European market to Middle Eastern and Caspian Energy interests. Syria is in the heart of Eurasia and historically, the empire that controls Eurasia controls the world. Russia cannot allow that; this is why they are putting their military assets in place. China, one of the world’s super powers, cannot have its natural gas flow interrupted as well, and China has sided with the Russians when it comes to Syria.

If Obama attacks Syria, some analysts believe Vladimir Putin is prepared to strike Saudi Arabia. This could stop the flow of oil from the Middle East. The United States government could go into a state of emergency and immediately restrict private access to fuel in this country in order to conserve the reserves inside of the United States! This would paralyze our economy. Grocery stores, major retail outlets, and pharmacies which operate on real time delivery principles would be virtually empty in matter of days. It is not inconceivable that banks would be closed and martial law established. Obviously, this is a worst case scenario.

Given the present sociological climate in the U.S. and the stirring up of potential race wars, it would not take much for chaos to take over. There are a lot of people who stand to benefit from this chaos or “manufactured crisis.”

Retiring DHS head Janet Napolitano made an ominous statement about a coming “cyber event.” A “cyber event” would shut down all commerce and communication on the internet. The point of all this is that this is not just about the U.S. invading Syria unilaterally. There is potential blowback from this that could be catastrophic! If you believe in prayer, now is the time to pray, as our Founding Fathers did. That means round the clock intercessory prayer, churches open all night for prayer, fasting, and a sense of intense spiritual urgency.

We are in grave danger!

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Jim Willie CB over Syria, Pipeline Politics, OPEC & the USDollar

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NOS (Nederlandse Omroep Stichting) maandag 2 sept 2013
Mail kwijt? Bahram Sadeghi belt even met de NSA

Iets kwijt in je e-mail of je wachtwoord vergeten? De NSA heeft wel een backup. Bijna iedereen heeft die grap wel eens gemaakt sinds de onthullingen van Edward Snowden over de Amerikaanse inlichtingendienst. Maar de Nederlands-Iraanse filmmaker Bahram Sadeghi, ook bekend als Jakhals bij De Wereld Draait Door, voerde hem echt uit: hij belde de NSA.

Hij belde het hoofdkantoor met de vraag of ze hem even wilden helpen een belangrijke e-mail terug te vinden, die hij per ongeluk gewist had. Want, als Iraniër in Nederland die veel reist, is hij misschien wel een 'person of interest':



Overigens .... als hij geen person of interest was, is hij dat nu wel .... is het telefoongesprek opgenomen, is zijn provider inmiddels in beeld en hebben ze het Nederlandse bevolkingsregister (dat op het microsoft windows platform zit) al geraadpleegd waardoor ze nu wél al zijn gegevens hebben, al gaf hij zijn naam in het gesprek niet door.

p.s. de beveiliging van het ganse NSA systeem is zo lek als een mandje, want Snowden heeft via de userID's van collega's ingebroken. Dus @sanem .... wil je annoniem voorinformatie omtrent de goudprijsontwikkelingen en heb je een blanco strafblad ..... solliciteer bij de NSA .... Wij hopen natuurlijk wel dat je de ingewonnen info dan hier met ons deelt en @rasta deze info uitwisseling goed beveiligt :mrgreen:
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Indiana Jones wrote:Dan had je namelijk kunnen begrijpen dat er al decennia lang een "goldgang" samenwerkt met CB's via de LBMA/COMEX (waarvan overigens JPM, Nova Scotia, HSBC, Deutsche Bank etc. .... maar óók ROTSCHILD deel van uitmaken).

Al hetgeen deze zakelijke goudbanken doen is een carrousel vormen met CB's .... onder het alziend oog van de BIS (Bank of International Settlements Switserland). Deze carroussel draait om onderlinge goudwinstverdeling tussen CB's en grootzakelijke banken ...... waarbij GEEN GRAM GOUD DE CAROUSEL VERLAAT, hooguit soms wat surplussen in het edelmetaal ..... waarschijnlijk al vanaf vóór het moment dat je geboren bent ...... ;)
tja ik ben nogal groen, nog niet op viagra-leeftijd zeg maar ;)

enig idee wanneer je dat hebt gepost? mijn forum search leverde niet direct iets op, en als je in google Rothschild intypt mag je tussen de alien theorieën gaan ploeteren :roll:
Indiana Jones wrote:Dus @sanem .... wil je annoniem voorinformatie omtrent de goudprijsontwikkelingen en heb je een blanco strafblad ..... solliciteer bij de NSA .... Wij hopen natuurlijk wel dat je de ingewonnen info dan hier met ons deelt en @rasta deze info uitwisseling goed beveiligt :mrgreen:
hehe, ik droom al van mijn eigen NSAtje :D

wat info delen betreft, ik kwam dit tegen:

"A private communication from a Rothschild investment house in London to an associate banking firm in New York dated June 25, 1863, confided:

The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or so dependent upon its favors that there will be no opposition from that class while, on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending . . . will bear its burdens without complaint. [Web of Debt, p. 93]"

zoals ik al zei, degenen die het weten zullen het nooit tegen iemand anders zeggen, dan verdien je er zelf niks meer aan. niets motiveert een mens tot geheimhouding als persoonlijke verrijking. en ik zeg eigenlijk heel weinig ;)
maar als ik al het geld in de wereld heb beloof ik alvast voor wereldvrede te zorgen :mrgreen:

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